Shalom,

 In the Torah we see an account where 3 men (anoshym in Hebrew) ate with Abraham. The account is introduced as:

Ge 18:1  And YHWH appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;
2  And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men (anoshym, mortal men) stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground

 Shlomo tells us while praying during the dedication of the temple:

1Ki 8:27  But will God indeed dwell on the earth? behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain Thee; how much less this house that I have builded?

 Did the Creator of all things really sit and eat with Abraham, or is the account telling us something else? Is it possible that it is correct for the text to say "YHWH said" when it is really a human being whom YHWH is speaking thru?

 I see the strong possibility that it was actually Shem, Eber and Arphaxad who were the 3 men, and that YHWH was speaking thru Shem (who's name coincidentally means "name") although the text says that Abraham was speaking to YHWH. It is recorded this way because the prophecy Shem spoke was fulfilled, and in hindsight it was clear that it was indeed YHWH who was prompting Shem's words concerning both Sodom and Gomorrah and Sarah's conceiving.

 Here is another similiar example, where we see Abraham tell his servant that a messenger of YHWH will guide him and make his journey prosperous:

Ge 24:7  YHWH, God of heaven, which took me from my father’s house, and from the land of my kindred, and which spake unto me, and that sware unto me, saying, Unto thy seed will I give this land; he shall send his angel before thee, and thou shalt take a wife unto my son from thence.

 What actually happened though? Abraham's servant went to the land of Abraham's relatives and when he got there he stood by a well. When he saw Rebekah he prayed to YHWH and asked for a sign:

Ge 24:12  And he said, O YHWH God of my master Abraham, I pray thee, send me good speed this day, and shew kindness unto my master Abraham.
13  Behold, I stand here by the well of water; and the daughters of the men of the city come out to draw water:
14  And let it come to pass, that the damsel to whom I shall say, Let down thy pitcher, I pray thee, that I may drink; and she shall say, Drink, and I will give thy camels drink also: let the same be she that thou hast appointed for thy servant Isaac; and thereby shall I know that thou hast shewed kindness unto my master.

 And what happened? Rebekah did exactly as he prayed. Why? Because Rebekah was open to the promptings of YHWH and did exactly as YHWH guided her. Is there any "angel" here? Or is it the Ruach of YHWH itself that moved her?

 One thing about Torah is it does not waste words. In this account though, we see a long drawn out repetition of what happened. Why? Is Torah trying to tell us something? It records the complete recounting of the event as Abraham's servant tells it to Laban and Bethuel. He tells them his prayer:

Ge 24:40  And he said unto me, YHWH, before whom I walk, will send his angel with thee, and prosper thy way; and thou shalt take a wife for my
son of my kindred, and of my father’s house:

 And continues describing to Laban and Bethuel what exactly happened. Then it tells us that Laban and Bethuel clearly saw that yes indeed, it was YHWH who was directing the events as they happened, as they proclaimed:

Ge 24:50  Then Laban and Bethuel answered and said, The thing proceedeth from YHWH: we cannot speak unto thee bad or good.
51  Behold, Rebekah is before thee, take her, and go, and let her be thy master’s son’s wife, as YHWH hath spoken.

 What about us? Do we too see the Hand of YHWH in these accounts? Is there some "angelic spirit being" here or is it really the Ruach of YHWH prompting human beings to say and do things that He desires of them? When a prophet speaks are we hearing the words of a man or the words of YHWH?

 When Moshe asked to see YHWH, He tells him he cannot see His Face, although Moshe does see his "backside":

Ex 33:20  And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.
21  And YHWH said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock:
22  And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by:
23  And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.

 In English both wind and spirit are translations of the same Hebrew word ruach. Ruach is invisible, although we can see its effects. Just as we cannot see the wind, but we can see its "backside" as the trees move, so too it is with the Creator of all things.

 Just a little something I thought some might find worthy of consideration.

Sincerely,
Tom

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Sorry, I didn't realise that I was posting in the vegetarian recipes forum. Maybe it was meant to be though, considering some would claim that YHWH Himself, the Creator of all things, sat and ate meat with Abraham.

Sincerely,
Tom

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