The Jesus I will never deny!

The Jesus I can't deny is not a Man-God, not a Trinity, not a shadow to the Father.

The Jesus I can't deny is the Messiah, the most honorable prophet, the most honorable rabbi, the most honorable man, who left so important teachings.

If it was not this Son of Man, I would not know G-d, no Jew ever told me about the Shema, rather, they extended Avdalah as a separation between their treasure and the gentiles.

So, although I descend from Israelites on both branches, I would not be a lover of YHVH was it not for the blast of the Son of Man.

Praise YH! I will never deny Yeshuah the one who was sent by G-d to gather those who are called after HIS name! SHMA ISRAEL ADONAY ELOHANU ADONAY EHAD + YESHUAH HAMASSIACH = GATHERING.

And please don't confuse Yeshuah with Rome's Pagan Church and their derivatives - the idolatry to which Sandra must confusedly be referring.

The Jesus I won't deny is not a god, but The Messiah. He doesn't wash my sins directly but leads me to the Torah and the Prophets. He didn't write anything, so are we judging one's on behalf of others writs? Most of your thoughts would make me laugh, were it not so sad.

Rui

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Comment by Charlene Mathe on November 8, 2010 at 1:37pm: I like the way you think, Rui.

Comment by Rui Pedro Jonah on November 7, 2010 at 9:17am: Shalom, Sandra, Shalom Sinai Servant, and Shalom All of you who patiently share my concerns about the need for a gentile reaching gospel to replace the one I assuredly disapprove and tar we all seem to disapprove.
Shavua tov
Rui

Comment by Rui Pedro Jonah on November 7, 2010 at 9:14am: The problem with removing Yeshuah's Gospel from the scene is that it will be not one single instrument to reach the so called Gentiles where the scattered ones inhabit. Or please show me a simple text that I can use to tell the Barros (Ba Rosh) and the Barradas and the Barrosos and the Matias and the likes to return to the Torah, please.

Comment by Karen on November 6, 2010 at 9:42pm: I was a very active member in the church, a sunday school teacher for 9 years and involved with BSF - Bible Study Fellowship ( an international bible study) also for over 9 years. I had so much to un-learn and re-learn after I left the church. Someone had posted this site on SWW and it was so helpful to me.
http://www.jews4judaism.org/jewsforjudaism/index.php?option=com_con...
Hope this will give you more insight and understanding, it sure did me!

Comment by Sinai Servant on November 6, 2010 at 8:16pm: Hi Rui, I would like to throw in my two cents worth if I may. Many claim to have found the one true God because of JC and the so called New Testament. Yet just as many have come to find Him through the writings of Mamonadies, Rashi and many other sages and Rabbi's from Israel's history.Why is JC singled out and all that is written of him regarded as absolute truth? Simply because like many of us you have come through the church system and have been brain washed into believing christianity's claims. We often carry so much baggage from our time in the church with us. When you one day question these teachings fear takes over, then comes the doubt followed by confusion. Once you take the steps to break free of the iron clad grip of deception, you will neve look back. Many of the SWW family have done just that. In order for JC to be Messiah he has to first be of the direct lineage of King David. This means he needs to of had a father with proven lineage and so on back through his decendants. The N.T. itself testifies that he had no earthly father because supposedly the H.S. impregnated Mary. This automatically disqualifies him. Other indicators according to Ez 37 that would prove Messiahship are: universal knowledge and obedience to Tanakh, lost tribes (Northern Kingdom) return to Israel, complete restoration of Jewish people to their homeland, universal peace and the Temple rebuilt. None of this happened in the time of JC and therefore it is quite clear that he is (NOT) the Messiah spoken of by the Prophet.

We also have to remember that there were many prophets spoken of in the Tanakh. The word simply means "anointed" We see King David, King Saul, Priests, Prophets and even the pagan King Cyrus all being spoken of as anointed (Messiah's) but none of these are the Messiah to come either. We are all waiting for the Messiah to come, but it is impossible for him to be JC. Even if he did teach the Shema and the right way of Torah, this does not make him Messiah any more than it makes me. In my view to base one's theology on any part of the so called N.T. with all its errors, additions, changes and pagan ideas and teachings is not only dangerous, but also inviting confusion and fear. The whole document needs to be scrapped and return to the truth of the Tanakh. It was good enough for our father's in the wilderness, the prophets and many others over the centuries so it should be good enough for us. The N.T. is by virtue of many of its claims an anti-semitic document that has only been around approx 2,000 years. It was created as a rival basis of faith to compete against and to alienate all things Jewish.

Rui, I would never tell you nor anyone to change or deny anyone or anything. We are all able to make up our own minds. I have personally renounced JC and the N.T. and let me tell you this; when I did I went through a period of fear, doubt and confusion wondering if I had done the right thing. Once I worked through all of that it was so liberating and refreshing. The truth of Tanakh became so much clearer and made far more sense than it ever did. Once you reach the place of holding as truth the Tanakh and letting go of the N.T. you have to stick at it with courage and resolve. All the best in your quest for truth.

Sinai Servant

Comment by Nan Griffiths on November 6, 2010 at 4:39pm: Dear Rui,

I weight all that you have said. I know that J is not G-d, but is he the messiah, anointed one? I have'nt figured out that one yet. I have to be truthful, I do not know or understand everything. I pray that G-d will reveal to us who this J really is and if it is crucial for us to know. In the mean time, I am following who I believe is the one true G-d of Israel, beside him their is no other. That was a big enough step for me to take.
Shalom,

Nan